Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/18/1998 03:22 PM House L&C

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HB 387 - DENTISTS ABILITY TO DO CPR                                            
                                                                               
Number 0084                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated the committee's first item of business was            
HB 387, "An Act relating to dentists."  He invited the bill's                  
sponsor to come forward.                                                       
                                                                               
Number 0091                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT stated HB 387 is intended to give the                
Board of Dental Examiners the ability to enter into formal                     
Memorandums of Agreements (MOAs) with applicants or licensees who              
are unable to perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) as                   
required in statute.  Representative Therriault said currently the             
board enters into MOAs when it is determined that an applicant or              
licensee is physically unable to perform CPR.  However, during a               
legislative audit conducted last year, it was discovered that the              
board possesses no statutory authority to enter into such                      
agreements.  He stated this bill gives that authority to the Board             
of Dental Examiners while preserving the spirit and intent of the              
statute:  to protect the patients of dentistry.                                
                                                                               
Number 0156                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT referred to a copy of the letter from the            
Division of Legislative Audit in the committee members' bill                   
packets.  He noted the audit primarily looked to see that an MOA               
had been extended properly, but in determining that it had been                
extended properly as far as the board's actions, the auditors also             
made this following finding:  "Our review of this particular case              
has raised concerns about whether the board can exercise such                  
discretionary authority.  From our reading of the statute it                   
appears the board has, through the use of the MOA, permitted the               
dentist to continue to practice under terms that are inconsistent              
with the requirements of statute.  We have made inquiries of the               
Department of Law (DOL) and will be notifying OccLic (Division of              
Occupational Licensing) of our question regarding the board's                  
authority and action in this area.  We will keep your office                   
apprised of any further developments."  He noted the Division of               
Legislative Audit had kept his office informed, and he commented on            
letters in the bill package in support of the legislation from the             
DOL, Commissioner Sedwick of the Department of Commerce and                    
Economic Development (DCED), and Dr. Kenneth Crooks, Chairperson of            
the Board of Dental Examiners.  Representative Therriault noted                
that board was unable meet to take formal action so Dr. Crooks                 
wrote a personal letter of support for the intent of HB 387.                   
                                                                               
Number 0280                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT stated there was a proposed committee                
substitute (CS) which limited MOAs to those people who can                     
demonstrate to the board that they have some physical limitation               
which makes them unable to perform CPR.  He noted the legislation's            
intention had not been to allow anyone who didn't want to get CPR              
certification to petition to the board and have someone else on                
their staff certified.  Representative Therriault said he thought              
it probably is appropriate for a dentist who actually doing                    
intrusive dental procedures to be CPR-certified, unless he or she              
can document a physical limitation.  He stated he was available for            
questions, and also noted the presence of Catherine Reardon,                   
Director of the Division of Occupational Licensing.                            
                                                                               
Number 0353                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated he would entertain a motion to adopt the              
proposed CS labeled 0-LS1474\B, Lauterbach, dated 2/18/98.                     
                                                                               
Number 0357                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COWDERY made a motion to adopt the proposed CS.            
                                                                               
Number 0362                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated, hearing no objections, the proposed CS               
was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                               
Number 0368                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE TOM BRICE asked if there was a need to include                  
dental hygienists, requesting some discussion regarding that.                  
                                                                               
Number 0398                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT stated that had been brought up in some              
of the letters of support, and would be something the committee                
might want to consider, noting he wanted to draft the legislation              
to take care of a particular problem.  If the committee wanted to              
expand it, he would leave it up to the committee's discretion.                 
                                                                               
Number 0423                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE JOE RYAN asked if the department could have done                
this by regulation.                                                            
                                                                               
Number 0432                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT answered in the negative, saying he                  
believed that the auditor determined the existing law was fairly               
specific:  dentists were supposed to be CPR-certified.                         
                                                                               
Number 0444                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG referred to page 3, line 1, which he quoted,                 
"Another person who is certified in CPR shall be in the same room              
..."  He noted the use of the word "room" rather than "premises" or            
"office" and what that intention was.                                          
                                                                               
Number 0463                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT explained he thought the MOAs currently              
entered into require the person, the dental assistant, to be in the            
room in case a person has a sudden heart attack.  Representative               
Therriault indicated they wanted a CPR-certified person in the same            
room with the patient.  He noted that certainly if the dentist was             
certified, he or she would be right there with the patient.                    
                                                                               
Number 0492                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked if there were any further questions.                   
                                                                               
Number 0503                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE RYAN made a motion to move the proposed CS for HB
387, out of committee with individual recommendations and without              
a fiscal note.                                                                 
                                                                               
Number 0520                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG, hearing no objections, stated CSHB 387(L&C) was             
so moved.                                                                      
                                                                               

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